Watching Foundation: “A Song for the End of Everything”

We’re at the start of a season, so here’s a quick reminder of how these work. While watching the episode, I write down my thoughts, impressions, connections, and theories — half-baked or otherwise. Then we record the podcast. Eventually, I will publish one of these. Usually, it’s pretty quick, but I still owe you one each from Seasons 1 and 2. Simultaneously published at Stars End: A Foundation Podcast.

Watching Foundation S3E01

“If you live long enough, time can be a weapon.”  All hail exponential growth.

It’s 152 years after Season 2.  The Foundation controls the entire outer reach.  I want a clearer idea of what that means.  Controlling the suburbs all the way around the galaxy doesn’t seem feasible in a century and a half.

But the way they’re talking about the Middle Band makes it sound that way. Three concentric circles all around the supermassive black hole.

Kalgan

And Kalgan is the lynch pin of the middle band.

We get a taste of what the visi-sonor sounds like.  It makes me glad that the books, as I was reading them, were silent.

Barely a couple of minutes in, and presumably, we meet the Mule.  Too abrupt.

“I have a very large appetite, one only a galaxy can satisfy.”  Too big, too fast.

Just get some soap, damnit.  Gross.

Planetary conquest in four minutes.  Horrifically violent.  This needed a build-up.

This sure seems like actual mind control rather than emotional pushing.

Also, I’m not buying this guy as the Mule.  Magnifico must be calling the shots from somewhere else.  Could it really be an Asimov story without the important action taking place off-screen?

And all that before the intro.

Skydance Television.  Now merged with Paramount.  I hope their business model includes spending lots of money on things just because they’re good. That’s not just for Foundation but for Star Trek, too.

Executive producer: Roxanne Dawson.  Awesome!

But crap.  That’s a really long list of executive producers.

Somewhere in Space

Hober Mallow’s deal with the Spacers had real long-term consequences. 

“After the Empire lost control of the Spacers during the Second Crisis, they’ve been forced to use jump gates to travel across the galaxy, slowing their sphere of influence and accelerating their decline.”

If they had to return to using obsolete tech that had been replaced by the Spacers, the Empire would be at a huge disadvantage.

I suppose if the Empire were slowed enough and spacer-travel were fast enough, the Foundation ringing the entire galaxy might make sense.

However, this provides us with three paradigms for FTL travel, whereas the source material had only one.  That’s too complicated.

And in season four, do we get the Infinite Improbability Drive or the Bloat Drive?  Or, God forbid, the drive that turned Paris and Janeway into rutting lizards?

There’s a Galactic Council now?  I don’t remember any hint of one.  The narration treats it as if it’s something that always existed.  Change a few words, and you have something that better indicates that the Cleons are waning in power and influence.

Now I’m wondering how Demerzel‘s Prime Radiant, or any of them really, updates itself.  There must be more data for the program to decide that the entire timeline is going to glitch like that.  So, how does that work?

“We proceed as planned.  There’s nothing else we can do.”  This nicely reminds me of the Bel Riose story in Foundation and Empire. All hail the forces of history.

The narration confirms that the Galactic Council has been around as long as the Empire.  And yet in 12,000(?) years of time and space, it never occurred to them to bring in a couple of chairs.

We get a picture of the galaxy with two splotches that may or may not be political units, but aren’t concentric circles.

But “resizing to a sustainable 6342 worlds” sounds a lot like restructuring to get out of bankruptcy.

And the Foundation is comparatively only about 800 worlds.  No way it encircles the entire galaxy.

I’m assuming this “when crops die, people die” claim is political posturing.  This Dawn is not the credulous kid of seasons one and two.  He seems to be a savvy political operator.  He talks about funding the Merchant Princes within the Foundation, and I decide that this is all a big mash-up of the end of the first book and lots of the second book, well stirred.

My gut tells me that the scale of using any number of planets to feed the galaxy is way off, especially with intragalactic travel slowed way down! With the possible exception of Trantor, if you don’t have agriculture, you starve.

“We hath brought for thee these bananas, Your Majesty!  Sorry, they turned black and icky!  Thou shalt therefore be presented with the glory of banana bread!“

Dawn is 10 days short of Daybreak.

Sometime later on Trantor

Dusk watches each of his predecessors get vaporized.  That’s a maudlin way to pass your rapidly diminishing lifespan.

The Mule is just barely on their radar.

Dawn and Dusk watch a previous brother Darkness try to escape his ascension.  Demerzel casually and efficiently shoves him into his demise.  “Most of us are as obedient as trash headed to the incinerator.“

New Terminus

We get a time lapse of the Foundation’s growth since settling on the new planet; it’s reminiscent of the similar sequence in season 1.

Professor Elbling Mis approaches the vault.  The land directly below the Vault looks scorched and smoldering.  This seems less harmless than the null field’s previous behavior.

Ebling has “nulled the null field,”  and the smoldering stops.  That gets a smile out of Vault Hari.  

Ebling tells Hari that he is descended from Xylas, the prosecutor from S1E01.  I suppose it’s nice to have an explanation for why they both look like Alexander Siddig.  Did you ever see Dragnet?  Every bartender looks like Bobby Troup.  Like they kept them all on a shelf.  So, not necessary but nice.  Now that I think about it, I would be fine with a different descendant in every season, a la Brent Spiner.

But he is thrilled to meet Hari.  “Seldon, man, myth, legend.”  “You have the myth at least,“ he is told.  “The man is elsewhere.”

Inside the vault, Ebling gawks and acts like a tourist.

We get an overview of Mayor Indbur. He’s reminiscent of Indbur III from the books.     

The Foundation, at this point, is indolent and flaccid.

Hari’s his usual charming self.  Ebling wants an explanation for why Hari gave a prime radiant to the Empire only to be unceremoniously ejected from the Vault.

And he didn’t even exclaim “ga-LAX-y!”

Haven

This is the Traders’ stronghold.  It’s tidally locked, so it always keeps one face toward the sun. The other side is in perpetual darkness.  Asimov calls these ribbon worlds.  The teevee show could have done a much better job of giving us that information. (I saw a website claim that these worlds don’t rotate. That’s nonsense. The planet’s year and its day have to sync up so the planet always keeps the same side to the sun, like our moon, where one side always faces the Earth.)

It seems the show is conflating two planets from Foundation and Empire.  These are Haven, the Trader world where Bayta and Toran settle, and Radole, the ribbon world where the Trader Assembly meets.

The Empire is dropping weapons for the traders on the Sunside.  In-universe, Sunside seems like a bad choice. Wouldn’t technology be more susceptible to melting than to freezing?  But then we couldn’t have the exciting chase scene where the four characters ride their big phallic symbols and try to stay within the moon’s shadow.  Nobody has to burst into flames if the chase happens on the dark side.

I’m guessing the male Foundationer is Han Pritcher since someone called him “Pritch.”

New Terminus

We see Mayor Indbur for the first time, and he seems to be wearing a Star Trek TNG (TM) communicator pin.

Trantor

Demerzel has invited one of the Luminist Zephyrs to Trantor to take her confession.  Her memory of the confession will be wiped afterwards. “ I know there are protocols, but I can be trusted with secrets.”  “Not this one.”

And the Zeroth Law! Giskard is mentioned, though not by name.

“So you imagine there was such a thing as the greater good?”  You would hope a religious leader would accept that as an axiom.  Also, the use of the past tense is somewhat disturbing. Demerzel just replies, “Isn’t there?”

Demerzel tells us that different factions of robots went to war with each other because they had different ideas about keeping humankind from harm. This has always been my head canon.

Eventually, Demerzel is reprogrammed to serve only Cleon.

And so we get to Demerzel’s crisis of faith.  The Prime Radiant shows her that the end of the Cleonic Dynasty is inevitable.  Who will she be if she outlives her programming?

Cut to a diplomatic dinner that includes the Foundation ambassador.  It’s confirmed that the Zephyr will remain on Trantor. Word of the fall of Kalgan reaches the Foundation ambassador.

It’s surprising that we haven’t seen Day yet, especially given that a lot of people tune into the show just to see Lee Pace.

When we see him, he’s communing with a camel and inventing Vogon poetry.

Jon is calling him Brother Dude, and there is no better alternative.

Dude has a consort with him, and she’s named “Song.”  Now I have to ponder the episode title. Dammit.  From Mycogen, and yet her pate is covered with hair. Also, there’s agriculture on Trantor.

Are they still just using yeast to make bread?  Or are the producers just dodging the question of how Trantor feeds itself?

Dusk needs Dude to come to the Palace.  “Six months is long enough for your drug dealer to live off our generosity.”

First time I’ve laughed during the episode: “You’re a sad clown of a clone.  And your problem is you think you’re the center of the galaxy.” 

The Imperial Palace

Dude refers to Demerzel as “It.”  She shows them the discontinuity from the Prime Radiant.  The Dynasty falls, and “the darkness there represents the end of civilization… perhaps even the extinction of your species.  Four months from now.”

And if that wasn’t a dramatic enough ending point, Gaal wakes up.  “The Mule is here and we’re out of time.”

Review:

This is a good, though not spectacular start. We seem to have reverted to the tone of Season 1. I preferred the somewhat more lighthearted Season 2.

Rating: 3.5 out of 5.

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Stars End S5E12

We finish our discussion of Foundation and Earth with Part VII: Earth. That includes chapters 19 — “Radioactive?” 20 — “The Nearby World,” and 21 — “The Search Ends.”

“The Podcast Seems to be Crowded with Things I Dont Quite Understand.”

I haven’t bothered with spoiler alerts for a while. This time, though, if you haven’t finished the novel and don’t want to be spoilered, seriously, don’t look even at the video below.

And speaking of things we don’t quite understand, this is a musical intro to a non-musical episode. Because, c’mon, if we’re wrapping up Foundation and Earth, how can we fail to reference ⁠Man on the Moon⁠ by REM?

Here are some Foundation-specific alternative lyrics.

Golan started searching for the psychohistoric.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah…

Fallom playing music making Alpha euphoric.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah…

Bliss is along and that means Gaia is here.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah…

Janov got to Earth because he centered the sphere.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah…

Now, Daneel, did you hear about this one?
Tell me, are you upgrading soon?
Danny, are you goofing on Seldon? Hey, baby, can you carry the boon?

If you believed they put a man in the moon, man in the moon,
If you believe there’s nothing up his sleeve, Then nothing is cool!

Here’s the bonus verse promised in the episode description. This was our first draft but it’s centered in the teevee world and we wanted to concentrate on the novel.

Here’s a little clone who’s a front for power
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah

Demerzel dropped the orbital tower
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah

Dump the First Law instead here’s the zero
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah

Another little clone is guided to inferno
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah

Feel free to play along in the comments, it’s fun!

And a quick show note; in our next episode we’ll be talking about two short stories, “Cal” and “The Fun They Had.” Plus a special guest!

But right now, the Man in the Moon! Let’s Go!

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Stars End S5E11

Here we go again! Let’s talk about Foundation and Earth, Part VI: Alpha!

“We Have Old Men in These Parts Who Love to Podcast of Ancient Days”

If you like…

complex calculations in a cross between archeology and astronavigation, agrarian societies that nonetheless have advanced weather control and bioengineering, and telekinetic performances on woodwind instruments then chapters 16, 17, and 18 are bananas!

Also, Trevize gets lucky and is it just me or is he getting too much stuff wrong for the man with the magic intuition?

Plus, some Foundation show news from the long, long ago back before the interregnum! And we open up the Stars End Mail Bag! Don’t miss this one! Let’s GO!

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Stars End S5E10

A cover of Foundation and Earth featuring an illustration from Part V.

We’re back and we’re diving back into Foundation and Earth! This time we’re discussing chapters 13, 14, and 15 or, if you prefer, Part V: Melpomenia. This is all of Part V and nothing but Part V.

“Any Podcast Would Be in Serious Trouble if Its Social Structure Broke Down Completely”

In this section, we bid a not-so-fond farewell to Solaria as our little trio becomes a quartet with the addition of Fallom. We travel to the third and final Spacer world for which we have coordinates. What do we learn on Melpomenia? Does that help us in our quest to find Earth? And what’s bothering Trevize this time? Listen and find out!

Also Star Trek, non-Euclidean geometry and marsupials. You can’t miss that, right? Let’s go!!

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Stars End S5E09

conversation as we discuss Foundation and Earth chapters 10, 11, and 12 which is to say, the entirety of Part IV: Solaria.

“There Are Old Legends of Life After Podcasting.”

I began our description of ⁠S3E18⁠, with “You know what? Solaria is weird.”

And here we are again on Solaria. It’s been twelve millennia and in the meantime, they’ve really leaned into the weirdness. The Solarians have been busy genetically engineering themselves into the quintessential Spacers. They’ve gone so far as to grow their own Tesla coils inside their own brains so that they can wirelessly power their robots. And that isn’t all! But don’t take my word for it! Read “Robots,” “Underground,” and “To the Surface” and see for yourself! Then join us here for the episode!

On another note, our first episode dropped on 26 April 2021. Thus, this episode marks the third anniversary of our podcast! To mark the occasion, here are two mug shots of Joseph’s cat Lavender at age 4 weeks and 108 weeks. These were taken right around our first and third anniversaries.

Thanks to everybody who has come along for the ride!

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Stars End S5E08

In this episode, we talk about Chapters 7, 8, and 9 of Foundation and Earth, “Leaving Comporellon,” “Forbidden World,” and “Facing the Pack.”

I’ve largely stopped bothering with the spoiler warnings, but I will spoiler enough in this episode description to warrant one. If you want to discover things as you read and haven’t read these chapters yet, you know what to do.

Tau Ceti is the nearest “sun-like star” to Earth that isn’t in a multiple-star system and so it’s been a frequent locale in Science Fiction over the years. It was a natural choice for Asimov to place Aurora, the first of the Spacer Worlds, in the Tau Ceti system.

Since Asimov made that decision, we’ve discovered and cataloged thousands of exoplanets, that is, planets orbiting stars other than our sun. Several of them are in the Tau Ceti system and two, Tau Ceti d and e, are super-Earths that appear to be at the outer edges of Tau Ceti’s habitable zone. That seems to fit what we learn about Aurora in this book; it was a terraformed world that, without humans to maintain it, was slipping back into uninhabitability.

There is another, proposed, exoplanet orbiting Tau Ceti, called PxP-4. That one could be smack in the middle of the habitable zone.

In any event, it’s time to return to the Tau Ceti system and take a good look around. Also, there are dogs! So Let’s go!

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Stars End S5E07

We talk about chapters 4 to 6 of Foundation and Earth.

“There is a Kind of Free-Masonry Among Podcasts”

There’s almost a framing sequence for this part of Foundation and Earth, “On Comporellon,” “Struggle for the Ship,” and “The Nature of Earth.” At the outset, Trevize had bulldozed his way onto Comporellon by implying that Bliss and Pelorat are involved in illicit activities that can’t be allowed to get back to the wife Pelorat does not have. By the end, it’s Trevize who’s plied a woman for information and favors with his masculine wiles.

In the interim, we see what has become of Baleyworld, the first drop of the second wave of galactic colonization. Frigid, puritanical, authoritarian, and gray, it’s an uninviting place until we’re allowed entry into the private world of Mitza Lizalor, and we learn what we need to continue the search for Earth.

Join us as we take it all apart, and then put it back together again! Let’s go!

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Stars End S5E06

We’re diving into Foundation and Earth with Chapters 1 through 3.

“You Cannot Have a Reasonable Civilization Without Podcasts of Some Kind”

The story so far:

When last we checked in, Golan Trevize had deduced that the ultimate answer to the ultimate question of Life, The Interregnum, and Everything was “Galaxia” and not “The Seldon Plan” or “42” as we had previously been led to believe.

But still, he has his doubts. Like a proper mathematics student, he’s uncomfortable unless he can show his work. And so, he and his two ape-descended companions, Pelorat and Bliss, have begun a quest to find out what the actual question was.

Thus, they search for Earth, the biggest, most powerful computer ever built, even bigger than the Milliard Gargantubrain at Maximegalon. They will find it, learn the actual question, and all will be right with the galaxy. Unless the telephone sanitizers have anything to say about it.

Or something like that. Join us for Chapters 1 through 3 of Foundation and Earth, “The Search Begins,” Toward Comporellon” and “At The Entry Station.” We’ll be sure to get it sorted.

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Stars End S5E05

It’s our final podcast on Foundation’s Edge as we discuss chapters 17 to 20!

“Once This Podcast is Attained All Sighs Become Sighs of Ecstasy”

My Mom, an unabashed fan of Joseph Campbell, frequently counseled me to “find my bliss.” I think I’ve done pretty well.

Collectively, though, we may have found our Bliss as we reach the closing chapters of our novel, “Gaia,” “Collision,” “Decision,” and “Conclusion.” Our heroes have arrived at Gaia, and all our principal characters are on the scene. Stuff is finally happening! This is as action-packed as an Asimov story can be!

And we finally, through Golan Trevize, learn the ultimate answer to the ultimate question of Life, the Interregnum, and Everything! Spoiler alert: it isn’t “42.”

Let’s GO!

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Foundational Readings: On The Edge

It’s been a while since we’ve done an installment of “Foundational Readings” or of “Next Time on Stars End.” I used those two columns to share the art that originally accompanied the stories we were reading. There’s a bit of unfinished business there, but today we have a bit of a surprise.

I remember what a big deal this was: the first Foundation novel in thirty-two years! But here’s something I didn’t remember or, more likely, wasn’t aware of at the time. Unsurprisingly, Asimov’s Science Fiction Magazine thought it was a pretty big deal too. So much so that the centerpiece of their December 1982 issue are the first two chapters excerpted from the book.

On Saturday we’ll release Stars End, Season 5, Episode 5. It’s our last installment about Foundation’s Edge; we’ve reached Gaia and the book’s climax.

But there’s lots more! There are two additional pieces of writing by the Great and Glorious Az himself, an editorial entitled “Susan Calvin” and a short essay entitled “The Story Behind the Foundation” under the masthead “Viewpoint.” I’ve read the latter before, although maybe not all at once; it is repurposed in an abbreviated form as a foreword (with the same title) to Foundation and Earth. The editorial, though, was new to me; I’ve never seen it anywhere else.

There are also commentaries from some of the biggest names in Science Fiction lauding the advent of a new Foundation novel including Arthur C. Clarke, Harlan Ellison, and Larry Niven. Those alone were worth tracking down a copy. Here’s a sample.

A commentary by Frederik Pohl, New York City

Forty years or so ago, when Isaac Asimov was beginning to write the Foundation series, I lived in Knickerbocker Village, in downtown New York City, and most Sundays Isaac used to come over to visit. Usually we would go out tor a walk in nearby Chinatown, and we would talk about what we were writing. What Isaac was writing had to do with some fellow named Flari Seldon and his exploits, over centuries, ranging across a galactic empire.

Now this was all really great stuff, and I listened with joy, but later on I had to pay the price. John Campbell printed them In Astounding as fast as Isaac wrote them, of course — but then, when those issues came out, I already knew the stories. So I had nothing to read! And for this reason and tor many others, I cannot tell you how much I look forward to Foundation’s Edge, the first story In the series that I'll be able to read with pure pleasure, since some joker will not have told me the plot In advance.

But of course, the main attraction here is the artwork: like the novel, these are the first Foundation illustrations in decades. Unlike the novel, these were not all that available in the subsequent forty-one years.

There are three nice images drawn by Vincent Di Fate. The first is the opening two-page spread of the excerpt.

The other two take up an entire page of the magazine each.

Two additional images reuse elements of images 2 and 3 above. This is lovely stuff and as I’ve said on our companion site, JosephFranké.com, great art deserves to be seen.

You can find out about Asimov’s Science Fiction Magazine online at www.asimovs.com. I scored my copy on eBay for a reasonable price.

Or, you can read the whole issue here: Asimov’s SF Magazine v06n12 1982-12.

All illustrations by Vincent Di Fate. You can learn more about his work at www.vincentdifate.com.