Watching Foundation: “When A Book Finds You”

Episode 2 will be next, so I can hopefully get on track for publishing these before the next episode.

You remember how these work. These are Joseph’s reactions, reflections, and ruminations while watching the episode. Also some light summary. Beware. Here be spoilers.

Simultaneously published at Stars End: A Foundation Podcast.

Watching Foundation S3E03

Book! I assume we’re talking about Foundation and Empire here. We’ll see.

Trantor, 3 years ago

Do you ever notice that on TV shows, nobody knows the Dewey decimal system? They just ask the librarian to find things for them.  No, not Noah Wyle.

Absolutely love the look of the reserved section.

Is that thing about the gloves true?  It’s nice that Dawn shows a certain amount of skepticism here. (Edit: I bought some nitrile gloves for handling old comics and then never used them. I must have come across this fact at some point.)

“The Empire has three heads. Do they all have room for thoughts like this?“

I’m pretty sure that this librarian would’ve been vaporized had this been season one.  Is that part of the cognitive decline?

Returning a library book from practically beyond the grave is above and beyond the call of duty.  And the librarian just implied that she has a connection to a power outside of the Empire.  These guys really are getting lax!

The Dawns collectively are getting better at sneaking out of the palace. This guy basically put on a raincoat and minimal, patchy facial hair.  That’s not going to fool anyone. Clark Kent’s glasses were a better disguise.

I thought this Dawn was more deliberative, but here we are again: Dawn + pretty girl = trouble. Possibly treason.

“Mathematics is the language of angels.”   It’s prettier, but it’s still too close to math is magic.

“Is it treason if you’re the one making the rules?”  Of course it is!  This is just Nixon‘s “If the president does it, it isn’t a crime” in fancy dress.  And don’t get me started on today’s newspaper.

“… just men who started to think for themselves.”  There’s a bit more to it than that. But the Dawns have shown this interesting spark since the little kid in S1E02.

That was a perfectly timed bit of static.

“Now,” whatever that means in a show set millennia in the future.

I like that the little texting device seems like something Asimov would have imagined 80 years ago. In fact, he did imagine it 80 years ago. This is from Foundation.

“The tiny, gleaming sphere changed hands, and Gorm added, “It’s confidential. Super-secret. Can’t be trusted to the sub-ether and all that. Or so I gather. At least, it’s a Personal Capsule, and won’t open for anyone but you.”

Ponyets regarded the capsule distastefully, “I can see that. And I never knew one of these to hold good news, either.”

It opened in his hand and the thin, transparent tape unrolled stiffly. His eyes swept the message quickly, for when the last of the tape had emerged, the first was already brown and crinkled. In a minute and a half it had turned black and, molecule by molecule, fallen apart.”

My current theory on the message? “Personal 210: The Vault is awake. We call.”

We were stuck on “Vault” for a while because I was stuck on “Mule.”

Nice!  Great shades of Mission Impossible! It’s nice to know that somebody is reading the books.

Once again, we get a perfect recreation of a scene from the previous episode that pins Gaal’s timeline to everything else.

Gaal wants Dawn to call for an “enclosure“ on Kalgan.  He doesn’t want to do it, and he evidently can’t do it without council approval. No hint about that in season one or two.

Dawn doesn’t think controlling people’s minds is possible; Gaal doesn’t answer.  I wonder if she is influencing his mind. I wonder if the librarian was from the Second Foundation. I wonder whether a lot of people are Second Foundation.

Kalgan

At the party, Pritcher is very serious.

And we finally see Magnifico with the visi-sonar.  “The mule brings him everywhere he goes, even into battle.”

Pritcher sees the Mule. “Now, I just have to get close to him.“  I wonder why that is sufficient.  He’s certainly 2F.  In a psychic attack from the Mule, we hear “you are like me,” and “Who is Gaal Dornik?”  Han flees with a bloodshot eye.

If he is 2F, maybe he won’t spend the rest of the book as a puppet.

“The Mule” is kind of a dick to Magnifico.

“Roughing my flanks?”

Bayta and Toran decide to investigate “the Mule” themselves.  They’re more serious than when we first met them, but they are very overconfident.

Toran’s encounter with “The Mule” is ugly, and Toran runs away, licking his wounds.  It’s notable, though, that, although “The Mule” threatens to toy with T’s mind, he does not follow through (maybe).

Bayta approaches Magnifico with concern, but the condescending baby talk is annoying.  Does she sense that Torin is in trouble?

“That’s not information!” Is funny.

Their ship is definitely an homage to the Millennium Falcon, even though they aren’t topologically equivalent.  

More letters, consistent with the message tape.

“Things have a way of working out how they’re meant to.”  Seems an out-of-character reaction (unless?).

Trantor

Brother Dude is back at the Claviger Barracks.  He wants to escape the palace and get to Mycogen with both Song and her memory.  We learn the clavigers’ families are all held hostage.  Dude claims he will bring the first claviger’s family along and will reward him generously for his help.

Song presses Dude for information, especially why he refers to Demerzel as “it.”  He tells her Demerzel’s a robot.

Why isn’t that an “open” secret?  Hasn’t she been in the public eye for centuries?  I suppose the official story is that she was also being cloned.  I guess that could work.

Dawn is contacting “The Mule.”  Dawn = Cleon XXV by the way.  

He’s trying to bring Kalgan back into the Empire and offers “The Mule” protection and some other things.

“ You already failed to protect Kalgan.  I am the proof.”  It goes downhill from there.

Some Jump Gate Somewhere

“The Mule” and his men captured a jump gate.  They’re keeping it quiet.  But he says something interesting as he dispatches the final guard.  “Normally, I would let you enjoy it at least.  But someone took my balladeer from me.”  He called Gigantigo “it” multiple times.

Maybe this is the Mule, but he is not the one with the mind control powers.  Could Magnifico be Giskard?  “Do you ever feel like your life is not your own?”  “It’s sort of a transcendent feeling you have to kill your way out of.“

The Palace Garden

Dude and Song are planning their escape.  Song’s affect is wildly different.  She’s now introspective and judgmental about how Dude talks about Demerzel, and she wants to stay near Demerzel.  Dude replies with a verse of Pulp’s “Common People.” 

Demerzel arrives, and Song makes an odd gesture for Demerzel to see.  Could she have been a plant all along?

The Imperial Palace

Dawn is worried about “The Mule.”  “He took Kalgan in a day… yada, yada, yada.”  He is trying to create the enclosure that Gaal recommended.

Dude and Dusk want none of it, and Demerzel is more worried about the council than about “The Mule.”

“The middle thrown says, no.”  

The tone changes dramatically when the Cleons start to discuss Dawn‘s robing ceremony.  The bit about strength, wisdom, and fortitude is the Cleon’s at their most human.

…A Bit Later

The first clavager seems to be on board.  He brings a plan to Dude.

But when Dude returns to the garden, Demerzel awaits.  She explains Song’s strange gesture.  It’s from an ancient religion in Mycogen where they worship robots called the Inheritance.  The sect believes the robots will return and remove all cruelty, injustice, and misery from the world.

Demerzel sends Song back to Mycogen with her memory wiped.  She would have killed her but for Dude.  He doesn’t appreciate the gesture. Also, it’s worth considering whether Demerzel is lying or not.

I’m hoping that the first clavager and his daughter aren’t just collateral damage here.

This Mycogenian religion will play a huge role in the rest of the season, I bet.  That would explain the prominence of Song’s name in the title of episode one.

(Edit: Song could be a major player in what’s coming if Demerzel didn’t actually wipe her memory.)

Review:

Slightly stronger than the first two episodes. We’re hanging some meat on the bones of some of the plotlines already introduced, with some nice character moments.

Rating: 4 out of 5.

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Stars End S6E03

The featured image for S6E03 "Shadows in the Math."

In which we talk about Foundation S3E02, “Shadows in the Math.”

“Shadows in the Podcast”

Spoiler Alert! You know what to do!

The pieces are starting to fall into place!

S3E02 begins with a brief review of how the Second Foundation has evolved over the past 150 years! We see the Mule trying to consolidate power on Kalgan and get to meet Torin and Bayta! Meanwhile, the Cleons each seem to be going off the rails in their own, wildly diverging direction.

We talk about it. Do we make sense of it all? There are still a lot more questions than answers!

Plus, our first Laura Burn! Don’t miss it!

And don’t forget to join the conversation at ⁠r/StarsEndPodcast⁠ on Reddit!

Let’s GO!

Here’s the link to the Episode on Apple Podcasts: Shadows in the Podcast

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Kalganian ships firing on one another.

In which we discuss Apple TV+’s Foundation, S3E01, “A Song For The End of Everything.”

“A Podcast for the End of Everything”

Now we’re into the meat of our new, even-numbered season as we finally have a real teevee episode to talk about! As always, this way lies spoilers. If you care about such things, get thee to the platform! We’ll be here when you’re ready!

The premier is dense, and it’s a barn-burner! We welcome the return of friend of the podcast, Alexander Siddig! We recognize Brothers Dawn and Dusk, but we’re not sure what we should call the other guy. Is Demerzel having a mid-life crisis? Is that guy really the Mule? Where’s Bayta? What are these new games? And what is it with the name “Han,” anyway?

So we have questions! Do we have answers? Tune in and see! Let’s GO!

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We preview season 3 of Foundation on Apple TV+ and make some announcements!

“I Can Worm My Way Into People’s Podcasts.”

It’s an even-numbered season of the Stars End podcast! You know what that means! Our Second Interregnum has come to a close! The big news, of which you’re already, no doubt, aware, is the return of Foundation to Apple TV+! New episodes are officially set to appear in a mere 65 hours or so! We’re here and we’re ready! We’re going to watch ’em! We’re gonna talk about ’em! It’s why we came together as a podcast to begin with!

There’s still some of Season 5 in Post-Production. We’ll get that out in parallel with season 6!

And we had a question from a listener about whether we have a forum where those interested could find the three of us. Our Twitter account used to serve that purpose, but you know we’ve mostly evacuated from that cesspool. We’ve established a new beachhead on Reddit, and all three of us can now be found at r/StarsEndPodcast!

Here are the “official teaser” that came out a few weeks ago,

…and the official trailer!

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In this episode, we continue to drift along The Currents of Space, floating into chapters 7 through 12. This almost coincides with the second installment in Astounding Science Fiction for November 1952 (Chapter 7 was published in October).

The Cover of the Signet paperback edition of "The Currents of Space" by Isaac Asimov.  The cover illustration shows Rik and Velona rushing across the spaceport.

“Ninety-Five Percent of the Universe is Hydrogen, and Most of the Rest is Podcasts.”

This is the middle section of Asimov’s middle Galactic Empire Novel (in-universe chronologically, that is). The middle layer of a current is called the laminar flow. It flows somewhat faster than the currents near the water’s surface or the riverbed. We’ll leave it to you to decide if this part of the novel flows better or more quickly than the rest of the book.

A lot is going on. Rik is regaining his memories and remembering the world of Spacioanalytics, the Five Great Squires are being blackmailed, Rik and Velona escape into space only to be forced into a room to discuss things with Lady Samia of Fife in classic Asimovian style and the Townsman embarks on a spree of killing and craziness that paradoxically culminates in his being stuck on a ship that he can’t pilot.

Check out the chapters, then join us for the conversation! Let’s GO!

Picture Credits:

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We start Asimov’s third (or second) Galactic Empire Novel, The Currents of Space, by discussing chapters 1 through 6. This nearly corresponds to the first installment published in the October 1952 issue of Astounding Science Fiction which covered 1 through 7.

“I remember my Podcast. I had a Podcast!”

A friend tells me that our episodes are better when we’re enjoying the stuff that we’re reading.

We certainly enjoy reading The Stars End Mail Bag! This time when we opened it up, it inspired a short conversation about My Living Doll starring Julie Newmar and Bob Something-Or-Other.

And we’re liking The Currents of Space so far! It hits the ground running with a threat of planetary destruction and a hero in the mists of amnesia! This is the Good Doctor’s take on race relations in the American South making it a nice companion to The Caves of Steel which tackled the issue in our northern cities. This gave us a lot to think about!

Like, what year was this written? It looks like the answer is actually 1952 and not 1951 like I, Joseph, thought.

We see parallels to three (count ‘em! 3!) Star Trek episodes! But which ones? Not “The Omega Glory,” I’ll tell you that much.

Is Ol’ Isaac reading comic books on the side?

And how does this compare to the other Galactic Empire Novels?

Plus, another round of “Where’s Daneel?“ Have we figured that out yet?

And more! You’ll have to listen to find out!

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The Stars Like Dust Featured Image.

We conclude our coverage of The Stars Like Dust ―, with chapters 15 through 22. That corresponds to part 3 of Tyrann, as published in The March 1951 issue of Galaxy Science Fiction.

The cover of a paperback edition of "The Stars, Like Dust."

“We the People… Do Ordain and Establish this Podcast.”

As we rejoin our heroes The USS Enterprise, trailer firmly attached by tractor beam, is approaching planet Omega 4. There they find the derelict USS Exeter in orbit. Kirk, Spock, McCoy, and Galloway beam over to the Exeter where the entire crew has mysteriously been turned into common rock salt, just like you can buy from any neighborhood hardware store.

No, wait. I’m confused. That’s the “Omega Glory,” S2E23 of Star Trek. I swear, sometimes these Star Trek references just write themselves.

A still from Star Trek: The Omega Glory.  Fair Use.

Anyway, the beginning of the episode is actually pretty good, but the ending is very, very dumb. So dumb that it lands it in the “So bad you have to see it to believe it” category. Unfortunately for the episode, people only seem to remember that ending.

To Asimov’s credit, we know that he did not like that ending, Strangely he didn’t like it even some 15 years or so before the episode aired. How does that work? I guess you’ll have to listen to our episode.

Meanwhile, being of a certain age myself, I can’t seem to get this little earworm out of my head.

Let’s all sing along! “Ee Plannista, enor durtofo amo orper fectyoo nion…” Everybody!!

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The Stars Like Dust Featured Image.

And now we settle in for the second part of the Good Doctor’s second novel! Join us as we dust The Stars, Like Dust— with commentary like powdered sugar on a doughnut! Let’s chat about chapters nine through fourteen!

A 1980s book jacket for The Stars Like Dust—.

“The Podcast Was Located in a Little Niche Just Outside the Cabin”

If this novel was feeling a little non-Asenion for your tastes, this installment might be for you! If you love Golan Treveze or the version of Hari Seldon who inhabits the Foundation Prequels, you’ll like Biron Ferrill better as this installment goes forward! If you think that there is a bit too much buckling and swashing in the first section, there is a bit of action where Biron overpowers a guard, tying him up with a pair of pantyhose. But once Gil and Artemisia help steal a space ship things settle down to storytelling and discussing galactic goings on as opposed to any actual going or actually doing anything story-inspiring. Plus, it’s something that passes for a plot twist!

So, let’s go! Help us bust the stars like dust with the vacuum of space!

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The Stars Like Dust Featured Image.

Let’s dig into the Great and Glorious Az’s second novel! Join us for The Stars, Like Dust—! In this episode, we sift through chapters one through eight.

“The Podcast Murmured to itself Gently”

The Stars, Like Dust is book #003 in the Asimov canon. That’s a little misleading. Book #002 I, Robot is a fix-up; most of it had been written years before. This was the second time the Good Doctor sat down to write a book and he intended to write a Novel with a capital “N.” He wasn’t having a good time of it. Walter Bradbury, Asimov’s editor, had liked Pebble in the Sky and wanted a follow-up but he also wanted an outline and a couple of sample chapters. Bradbury rejected the first two proposals. John Jenkins of AsimovReviews.net put it this way.

…now that he was a Novelist, Asimov was thinking he needed to write like one and was getting carried away. Rather than his sticking to his usual sparse prose, he was getting distinctly florid, and he needed to tone things down.

That’s what comes from trying to write a Novel with a capital “N” I suppose. To make matters worse, when Galaxy Science Fiction bought the right to serialize the novel Horace Gold insisted on a subplot that Asimov really didn’t care for.

But now it was time to sit down and write, which is what our good friend Isaac does best. Join us to see how the book turned out! This reading coincides with the installment published in the January 1951 issue of Galaxy Science Fiction under the title Tyrann.

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We encounter the back cover of the Good Doctor’s first actual book as we wrap up The Pebble in the Sky with chapters 14 through 22.

Cover of the Bantam Paperback edition of Pebble in the Sky (1957)

“Podcast Along With Me The Best is Yet to Be.”

If you’ve been around for a while you probably remember our discussions of the “Great Man Theory of History” vs the “Bottom-Up” paradigm. In other words, do remarkable individuals with unique characteristics write history or is it driven by powerful historical forces that generate great leaders when they are needed? It’s a false dichotomy, but a useful one. In the Foundation Universe the bottom-up theory must dominate otherwise psychohistory could not work the way it does.

But Joseph Schwartz is just the right Jewish tailor with a special kind of trick memory who is accidentally thrust to an exact moment in Earth’s future. Once there he is brought to the only scientist on Earth doing a particular type of brain research. He then survives a dangerous experiment that gives him an unlikely set of psychic powers which he uses to save the lives of nearly every human in the galaxy.

Put those numbers into your Prime Radiant and crunch them!

This probably delayed the creation of psychohistory by hundreds of years. “I just don’t understand it, Hari, the math says everyone in the galaxy should be dead right now.”

You’ll want to hear this! Let’s GO!

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